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Author Topic: Mario's height w/Mushroom and without...  (Read 4832 times)

« on: August 02, 2004, 07:25:23 PM »
Hello and welcome once again to another debate on the workings and details of the Marioverse.  This threads subject, Mario's size both with a super mushroom, and without.

Now in terms of him growing in size at all when he eats a mushroom is a up for debate aswell.  A far as I know there are two theories on the matter.

A) Mario eats (or by some other means absorbs) a Super Mushroom, causing him to grow approximately twice his size.  This thoery is backed up by the original Super Mario series. (I.E. Super Mario Bros. 1-3, and Super Mario World)

And B) Mario eats the Mushroom, and simply gains health, whilst the images of Mario growing in size is a metaphor for Marios gaining strength as opposed to actually becoming larger.  This theory is supported by the Mario RPG series. (Super Mario RPG, Paper Mario, Mario&Luigi: Superstar Saga)

Although let's backtrack a bit and discuss theory A, seeing as how that's what the thread was originally about.  ^_^

As far as we now, it's safe to assume that Mario's natural size is of that depitcted in the RPGs, aswell as in Super Mario 64 and Super Mario Sunshine.  Which appears to be, for the sake of argument, around four feet tall.  Now if Mario ate a Super Mushroom would he grow to be eight feet tall?  And how tall then would Peach have to be, since he seems to be as tall as her when he eats a mushroom in the original series.

And now...DISCUSS!

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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2004, 07:55:17 PM »
Those two statements aren't really theories; moreso different ways Mario reacts to different mushrooms.
First of all you must consider the fact that in the SMB-style games, Mario eats Super Mushrooms, while in SMRPG, he eats Mushrooms. Furthermore, the SMRPG intro introduces him as Super Mario, giving an impression that he is in his Super state throughout the game, hence his size seeming to be about the same as Peach's.
According to TMK, Mario is 4'5", and Peach is 5'2". Therefore Mario probably just gets a little beefier when he's Super.
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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2004, 08:24:52 PM »
I think it makes more sense if his normal state is "super", and when he gets hurt, he shrinks for some reason.

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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2004, 12:02:24 AM »
Y'know, while we're talking about size, what about Bowser? How big is he anyway?

And about mushrooms in Mario RPG, I always kinda figured that the graphics in that game (the same way I think of most RPG's) weren't really supposed to be 100% acurate, but just to give you a decent idea of what's happening. All the characters being the same size, buildings being smaller on the outside than the inside, changing armor without changing a character's apearance, Mario not growing when he eats a mushroom, and imitating other characters by changing into them, are all ways of telling us what's happening, without the complication of graphics that would have been dificult (or impossible) on the SNES.

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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2004, 04:25:25 AM »
Very true, you all make good points.  Although I like to think that the Super Mushroom has some special qualities aside from just "making you normal".  I thought Smash Bros. Melee had the sizes pretty well put together.  But then again in the case of Mario already being super, how small would Mario be when he shrunk?  I think it's safe to assume, pretty freakin' tiny.  Two, three feet tall, maybe?     And once again this begs the question, does he shrink at all?  Or is it all a metaphor?

And in regards to the statement about Bowser's size, once again I figured they had it about right in Smash Bro. Melee.  True, it wasn't an actual "Mario" game perse, but I think managed the size comparisons pretty well.  So I guess that would make him, what?    Six, seven feet tall?  I'm not sure, I'll have to break out my gamecube and check up on that.

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"The bigger they are, the harder I fight."

« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2004, 06:45:38 AM »
My friend thinks it represents Mario getting high off of the mushroom.

Since it's name is "super mushroom" I think he grows.
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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2004, 09:26:44 AM »
No, since Alice in Wonderland was the reference, he's probably really growing.

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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2004, 09:56:21 AM »
Bowser is the largest person there is! BWAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!! Err, yeah... well, Bowser is supposed to be the largest, and is also supposed to be twice Mario's height, so I'd say he's more like 8 or 9 feet tall.

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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2004, 12:03:21 PM »
The ending to GB DK gives insight into the Super Mushroom.

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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2004, 04:23:25 PM »
I think Giga Bowser is the biggest creature to ever grace a Mario game.

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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2004, 05:23:36 PM »
What about Bowser from the end of Yoshi's Island?  He was pretty big there...
Also, Hooktail (red Dragon from Paper Mario 2) looks plenty big...
'Course, the game hasn't come out yet...

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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2004, 05:31:27 PM »
For some reason, I think GigaBowser is just Bowser in some messed up form, so they're the same person.  And Bowser at the end of Super Mario Sunshine is WWWAAAAAAYYYY bigger than Mario, or Peach, Or Bowser Jr.  Seriously, I even checked the difference in size between Mario and Bowser by Rocketing onto Bowser's head, which was bigger than Mario's whole self.
With Hooktail, I wouldn't know yet.

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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2004, 11:12:02 PM »
Originally posted by MEGAߥTE-
"The ending to GB DK gives insight into the Super Mushroom."

Hmm, so it does.  Thank you for telling us about that, I had never seen it before.  Heres the link for anyone who hasn't seen it.

*SPOILERS*
http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/gb/a/donkey.htm

Well that seems to me like substantial proof that the Super Mushroom causes Mario to grow from what seems to be about the the same size he is in Mario Sunshine and 64 and those games.  Once again, I turn to Smash Bros. Melee for a proper size comparison.  Anyway, I'm sold on the subject.

As for Boswer's size variations throughout the games, we all know that he uses magic constantly.  So it was probably just another one of his attempts to be more menacing.

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"The bigger they are, the harder I fight."

« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2004, 01:44:53 PM »
So apparently not only does the Super Mushroom make Mario bigger, but stronger as well.

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"The bigger they are, the harder I fight."

« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2004, 06:58:46 PM »
Duh! *breaks a block*

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